Comments on: The Art World Olympics http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/ the ARTistry of ARThistory occasionally done ARTfully Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:08:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: gninja http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2194 gninja Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:56:18 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2194 Yes, but they not only reflect; they affect. Let's take the example I gave above a bit further. How far do you think women can achieve equality with men if adolescent girls aren't seeing women artists being represented in art history books? While the movement of the '60s and '70s and later to get women into these books grew out of a larger movement to achieve gender equality, securing the continued development of that goal depends on the continued presence of women in "high" culture. So, if an editorial board gets together and decides that the next volume of Gardner or Jansen or Hartt or whichever art history survey book you choose should not include Angelika Kauffman or Vigee-Lebrun or Cindy Sherman, etc etc, then these women cease to speak from the podium that art allows. Their works don't stop existing, but the impact they have certainly decreases. Yes, but they not only reflect; they affect. Let’s take the example I gave above a bit further. How far do you think women can achieve equality with men if adolescent girls aren’t seeing women artists being represented in art history books? While the movement of the ’60s and ’70s and later to get women into these books grew out of a larger movement to achieve gender equality, securing the continued development of that goal depends on the continued presence of women in “high” culture. So, if an editorial board gets together and decides that the next volume of Gardner or Jansen or Hartt or whichever art history survey book you choose should not include Angelika Kauffman or Vigee-Lebrun or Cindy Sherman, etc etc, then these women cease to speak from the podium that art allows. Their works don’t stop existing, but the impact they have certainly decreases.

]]> By: anna http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2191 anna Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:48:23 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2191 i'm not sure "everybody else" isn't putting it a bit too strongly, and i'm not sure that at this moment there isn't a very big difference b/w art historians and art critics. i also don't necessarily think the ramifications are political, although they may very much reflect the social and hence political atmosphere of contemporary culture. i’m not sure “everybody else” isn’t putting it a bit too strongly, and i’m not sure that at this moment there isn’t a very big difference b/w art historians and art critics. i also don’t necessarily think the ramifications are political, although they may very much reflect the social and hence political atmosphere of contemporary culture.

]]> By: gninja http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2187 gninja Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:46:27 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2187 I have a hard time believing that professional (art) historians don't see the political nature of the work they do. These are the people telling everybody else what's--culturally--worth their time. Maybe they don't see it that way, but I've been doing this for less than ten years now, and it's occurred to me. If men and women who have been dedicating their lives to art history don't see the larger ramifications of their work, then they're--at the least--doing themselves a disservice. I have a hard time believing that professional (art) historians don’t see the political nature of the work they do. These are the people telling everybody else what’s–culturally–worth their time. Maybe they don’t see it that way, but I’ve been doing this for less than ten years now, and it’s occurred to me. If men and women who have been dedicating their lives to art history don’t see the larger ramifications of their work, then they’re–at the least–doing themselves a disservice.

]]> By: anna http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2183 anna Sun, 20 Jan 2008 23:22:27 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2183 do you not think she's correct in terms of the issues that concern many art historians who don't study modern/contemp art? i agree that's what people "think," doesn't mean it's correct. the questions of period politics may come into play, but there is frequently a disconnect with contemporary reality, if that makes sense. do you not think she’s correct in terms of the issues that concern many art historians who don’t study modern/contemp art? i agree that’s what people “think,” doesn’t mean it’s correct. the questions of period politics may come into play, but there is frequently a disconnect with contemporary reality, if that makes sense.

]]> By: Historical Memory and the Valle de los Caidos « Art(h)ist’ry http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2178 Historical Memory and the Valle de los Caidos « Art(h)ist’ry Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:29:44 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2178 [...] Tag Cloud anime apocalypse architecture art art history barthes cathedrals charity economics exhibitions exhibits film galleries graffiti illuminated manuscripts manuscripts medieval art 101 museums new media newspapers new york Paris in the Middle Ages patronage photography politics portrait semiotics street art Uncategorized urban space « The Art World Olympics [...] [...] Tag Cloud anime apocalypse architecture art art history barthes cathedrals charity economics exhibitions exhibits film galleries graffiti illuminated manuscripts manuscripts medieval art 101 museums new media newspapers new york Paris in the Middle Ages patronage photography politics portrait semiotics street art Uncategorized urban space « The Art World Olympics [...]

]]> By: gninja http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2134 gninja Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:00:59 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2134 I'm not so sure that's what Anderson meant, though. I think her comment was directed at people who participate in the conference. Her quote could have been taken out of context, but--contextless-that's what her comment reflects. I’m not so sure that’s what Anderson meant, though. I think her comment was directed at people who participate in the conference. Her quote could have been taken out of context, but–contextless-that’s what her comment reflects.

]]> By: zooeygoethe http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2133 zooeygoethe Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:51:37 +0000 http://arthistorian.wordpress.com/2008/01/13/the-art-world-olympics/#comment-2133 "People" meaning, I don't doubt, "people who don't do entire degrees in this stuff." There's a big bulk of the planet with no exposure at all to Art History - why would they know or think that it's political? “People” meaning, I don’t doubt, “people who don’t do entire degrees in this stuff.”

There’s a big bulk of the planet with no exposure at all to Art History – why would they know or think that it’s political?

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